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Buying a house in Ontario in winter: what if the inspector can't see the roof?

My take is blunt: a snow-covered roof is not a reason to walk away, but it is never a reason to assume the roof is fine. My job isn't to tell you a house has no problems. It's to turn the risks you can't see into risks you can, and then put a price on them.
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Ask Yifei · Buying
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Winter inspection, roof under snow. Now what?

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Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 1/9
Why the roof gets missed
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In winter, the roof section is often blank
  • 01Snow hides cracked or curled shingles
  • 02Inspectors won't walk an icy roof
  • 03Inspections only cover what they can see
Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 2/9
Can't see the roof?
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Look here instead
01The atticStains, dark patches, frost on nail tips
02Top-floor ceilingsYellow water rings in the corners
03EavesBent eavestroughs or a long line of ice
04Snow on the roofPatchy melt means heat is escaping
Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 3/9
Number five
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Get the paperwork, not just a promise

When was the roof done? Is there an invoice and warranty? Any past leaks or insurance claims?

Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 4/9
A line to go by
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10 years
Roof under 10, with an invoice

Attic looks dry too? Usually fine to move ahead. No paperwork and an old roof? Get a replacement quote and price it in.

Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 5/9
Found problems?
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Don't count on a big price cut

A house Yifei sold recently had a broken furnace, crushed eavestroughs and a big basement crack. The inspection took off only a few thousand.

Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 6/9
Step by step
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6 steps to see the roof clearly
  • 01Ask for a longer inspection condition
  • 02Tell your inspector to go in the attic
  • 03Ask the seller: roof age, invoices, leaks, claims
  • 04Attic looks off? Bring in a roofer or drone
  • 05Still unsure? Negotiate on a new roof's cost
  • 06Deadline close? Ask your lawyer about extending
Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 7/9
Winter works for you
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Winter buyers tend to be serious

With fewer buyers out, sellers are often more flexible on inspection conditions. Use that room to check the roof before you firm up.

Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 8/9
Your own situation
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Found a winter home but can't see the roof?

Tell Yifei the roof age, what paperwork there is and what the attic showed. He'll tell you straight what to do.

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Yifei Lin, Sales RepresentativeRE/MAX Niagara Realty Ltd., Brokerage
efay.ai · 9/9

When you buy in Toronto or Niagara in winter, the roof is often under snow and the home inspector usually won't go up there; the report will just say the roof wasn't inspected. Don't wait for the thaw. Check the attic from the inside, ask the seller for roofing invoices, and use the conditional period to bring in a roofer or a drone. If you still can't tell, price a new roof into your offer.

Why winter inspections miss the roof

So in winter, the roof section of the report is often blank. You have to fill that gap yourself.

Five places to look instead

  1. The attic. Look at the underside of the roof deck for stains, dark patches, and frost or water on the nail tips. Warm air inside and cold air outside make problems show up here.
  2. Top-floor ceilings and corners. Look for yellow water rings.
  3. Eaves. Eavestroughs bent by snow, or a long line of ice along the edge.
  4. Snow on the roof. If the neighbours still have thick snow and this roof is melting in patches, heat is escaping there. Check insulation and ventilation.
  5. Paperwork. When was the roof done, is there an invoice and warranty, has it leaked, was there an insurance claim?

What to do in each case

Situation
Invoice shows a roof under 10 years old, attic looks dry
Next stepUsually fine to move ahead
No paperwork, roof looks old
Next stepGet a roofer's replacement quote and build it into your price
Attic shows stains or damp wood
Next stepBring in a roofer or drone during the condition period, then renegotiate or ask for repairs
Condition deadline is close and you still don't know
Next stepTalk to your lawyer about an extension; don't waive blind

What Yifei has seen

In one house, the buyer's inspector went into the attic and found a section of roof sheathing that had been cut out and patched, with nails poking through. From outside, the shingles in that spot looked patched too. The buyer wanted to know whether it had been repaired and whether there had been an insurance claim. You couldn't see any of it from the street; from the attic it was obvious.

In another, one shingle was damaged and the attic sheathing was already wet, though not leaking through. The shingles were about 10 years old. Yifei flew a drone up to get a clear look, then had a roofer replace that shingle.

Finding problems doesn't always mean a big price cut. A house Yifei sold recently had a broken furnace, eavestroughs crushed by snow and a large crack in the basement, and the inspection only brought the price down by a few thousand dollars. If the price already reflects the problems, the seller won't give much more.

Step by step

  1. Ask for a slightly longer inspection condition so there's time to book a roofer.
  2. Tell your inspector you want them in the attic.
  3. Send the seller a short list: roof age, invoices, past leaks, past claims.
  4. If the attic raises questions, bring in a roofer or a drone.
  5. Still unsure? Negotiate based on the cost of a new roof, and have your lawyer write any special clause.

Yifei's view from years of winter deals: fewer people are out looking in winter, and the ones who are tend to be serious. With fewer buyers competing, sellers are often more flexible on inspection conditions, so winter can give you room to check the roof properly before you firm up.

Frequently asked questions

Will a home inspector go on the roof in winter?

Usually not. Snow and ice make it unsafe, so the report will typically say the roof wasn't inspected. Fill the gap with the attic, the paperwork and a roofer.

The seller says the roof is new. Should I take their word for it?

Ask for the invoice. It should show the date, the scope of work and the warranty. Your insurer will likely ask for the roof's age anyway.

Can I wait until spring to inspect the roof?

You can try to negotiate that, but have your lawyer put it in the agreement. Don't rely on a verbal promise.

Tell me about your situation and I'll tell you straight what to do. Yifei (RE/MAX), efay.ai

Sources: Ontario homebuyer guide https://www.ontario.ca/page/what-know-before-buying-home ; RECO home inspections https://www.reco.on.ca/consumers/information-for-buyers/home-inspections/

Yifei Lin is a RE/MAX real estate agent serving the Greater Toronto Area and Niagara since 2015. For advice on your own situation, reach him at efay.ai.

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